O
1.
David
Cloud
believes
2.
“All
scripture
“was”, not “is”, given by inspiration of God…”.
3.
In
the King
James Bible, the word “scripture” means the “originals’.
4.
Only
the “originals”
were given by inspiration of God.
5.
The
King James
Bible English text is inferior to
the Greek text.
6.
The
King James
Bible is not given by inspiration of God.
7.
The
King James
only contains the words of God.
8. The King James Bible is a wonderful
translation, but only a translation.
9.
It
is
unthinkable that the King James English corrected the TR Greek.
10. The
reference to
all scripture being given by inspiration of God refers only to the
“original”
writing down of the Word of God.
11. The
English of
the King James Bible is not a better vehicle for God’s
revelation.
12. The
King James
Bible could be translated more clearly in places.
13. The
King James
Bible is the Word of God not the word of God.
14.
He
can’t hold
up a King James Bible and say “This is the holy scriptures!”
15.
There are words
in the King James Bible that could be brought up to date.
16. He
can’t hold up
the King James Bible and say “This is the words of God!”
17. The
King James Bible is not inspired or infallible but the TR is.
18. The
King James
Bible doesn’t contain any real mistakes.
19.
The
King James
Bible isn’t the words of God.
20.
The
TR doesn’t
have any errors.
21.
The
TR is to
be preferred to the King James Bible.
22. The
King James
Bible is “inspired” (whatever he means by that) as far as the English
goes but
not given by inspiration as the “originals” were.
23. The
Nepal Bible
is based on the TR and not on the King James Bible.
24. The
King James
Bible is only the best Bible we have today.
25.
Only what men
wrote in the
“originals” was perfect and infallible and inspired.
26. The
word “Word”
refers to the scriptures and not to Jesus Christ.
27. All
men are saved
the same way no matter which dispensation.
28.
In
the OT, men
were saved by looking forward to the cross.
29.
All
saints in
the OT were born again.
30.
A
divorced man
can’t be a pastor.
31.
Paul
writes to
men who have professed faith in Jesus in the Book of Hebrews.
32.
All men
are saved the same way in different ages.
33.
Men
were saved by faith alone in the OT.
34.
All
saints in
the OT had their sins washed away.
35.
Men
were not
saved by faith and works in the OT.
36.
Men
are not saved
by works alone in the Millenium.
37.
All
saints in
the OT were redeemed.
38. All saints
in the OT
became members of Christ’s body.
39.
All
saints in
the OT were spiritually circumcised.
40.
All
saints in
the OT had their sins taken away.
41. Twice
married men aren’t
qualified to be pastors.
SO WHAT?
1. David
Cloud is what is called a “TR man” and TR men choose their words
carefully.
2. David
Cloud uses an Antiochian manuscript but has an Alexandrian mentality.
(God lets you read the King James Bible, but holds back on the
understanding
and knowledge)
3. David
Cloud holds his Independent Baptist doctrine above that of the King
James Bible.
BUT LET’S BE
FAIR
Q: Will I
see David Cloud in
heaven?
A: I
believe that I will.
Q: Can I
call David Cloud my
brother?
A: I
believe that I can.
Q: Is
David Cloud a soul winner?
A: I
believe that he is.
Q: Is
David Cloud a member of
Christ’s body?
A: I
believe that he is.
Q: Is David
Cloud a missionary, church
planter and a zealous worker for God?
A: I
believe that he is.
HOWEVER … A FEW
ENGLISH WORDS
FROM GOD
(only given by
inspiration in the
Greek according to David Cloud)
“A man that is
an heretick, after the
first and second admonition reject;” (Titus 3:10)
HOW DID THE TR
(Textus
Receptus) COME INTO BEING?
WHAT IS THE TR?
In the NT holy men of God spake what God gave them.
Others wrote
down what they
said.
These
“original” letters
and books of the NT were in Greek
They were copied
and
copied and copied and copied many times over.
They were
distributed and
read by all the churches in the 1st Century.
They were
translated into other
languages eg Latin, Italian, Gothic, Spanish, French, German, Dutch
etc
over the centuries.
All of the
originals were
eventually lost, worn out, destroyed, ripped up and burned.
Many verses
were taken from
the copies and read churches as lectionaries.
Bible notes
were made along
the way from all sorts of sources.
There were NT
Bibles that
existed all the way through eg The Itala from AD147.
There were fraudulent
copies of everything that came into existence – this included whole
books,
notes, uncials, lectionaries etc etc.
The first big
attempt to
get the NT into English came with Wycliffe about 130 years before the
1611 King
James Bible.
So when the
King James
translators came to produce God’s words, they had literally tens of
thousands
of books, pieces of paper, uncials, notes, Bible jottings, copied
verses,
lectionaries from all nations and countries of the earth and in all
languages
and they sifted out the proper and true ones.
The TR was the
attempt to
get the 27 books of the NT in a final Greek from produced by Erasmus
and indeed
the Elzevir brothers.
The TR was
produced after
the Wycliffe Bible and the Tyndal Bible.
The final TR
was a
compilation of the correct documents and all others rejected.
This TR was
then the final
Greek compilation of all NT books, all other documents, from all the
languages
of the world.
The TR was the
best Greek text
that Erasmus and the Elzevir brothers could come up with, of the 27
books of
the NT.
The King James
Translators
then used the TR only as a basis for the King James
Bible along
with the Bishops Bible and all their other sources of material which
were vast
and numerous.
The 1611
English of the King James
Bible corrected the Greek TR in over 100 places – and it is this
what sticks
in the neck of the “TRIB men” (TR only + Independent Baptist
believers).
Harley
Hitchcock
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